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Troubleshooting Sonos on WiFi

Troubleshooting Sonos on WiFi

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This is ridiculously complicated for a system that costs what Sonos does and purports to do easily.

I just spent 2 hours trying to change the network my 4 sonos speakers connect to.   Error after error for something that should be easy enough.  Im done with it.  Piece of trash 

I’m not sure what is really that complicated about wiring one Sonos device only to the new router and rebooting all other speakers, Then opening the mobile App (connected to the new router WiFi). Wait just a minute, or two, for all speakers to show - then add the new WiFi SSID/Password to all via ‘Update Networks’ in the Apps network settings.

Oh and perhaps don’t forget to remove the old WiFi credentials from the system too (if no longer needed). This WiFi switchover must take all of 10 minutes.

I’ve done it three times. Followed the new router - installation instructions FAQ. Never had an issue. 

Fantastic article.  I appreciate the depth of it.  Unfortunately it did not help with my issue.  I have a Meraki MS220-48LP switch with ERSTP disabled and STP blocking disabled with a suggested bridge of 4096.  I also have two Meraki MR28 access points in a mesh network on the same channels (2.4 and 5.0 GHz radios).  I have 9 Sonos pieces on the network  three of them amps and all wired to the network.  My bar, sub, and two rear channels along with a Five are wireless.  This evokes the SonosNet but I see all devices wired and wireless on my Meraki network.

Here’s the issue.  If I open my Sonos app on my Mac via a wired connection, I see all Sonos hardware.  If I attempt to use the app when on the WiFi, they disappear.  My iPhone app shows nothing via WiFi as well.  Why?  Obviously it has something to do with my WiFi.  What am I missing? 

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Fantastic article.  I appreciate the depth of it.  Unfortunately it did not help with my issue.  I have a Meraki MS220-48LP switch with ERSTP disabled and STP blocking disabled with a suggested bridge of 4096.  I also have two Meraki MR28 access points in a mesh network on the same channels (2.4 and 5.0 GHz radios).  I have 9 Sonos pieces on the network  three of them amps and all wired to the network.  My bar, sub, and two rear channels along with a Five are wireless.  This evokes the SonosNet but I see all devices wired and wireless on my Meraki network.

Here’s the issue.  If I open my Sonos app on my Mac via a wired connection, I see all Sonos hardware.  If I attempt to use the app when on the WiFi, they disappear.  My iPhone app shows nothing via WiFi as well.  Why?  Obviously it has something to do with my WiFi.  What am I missing? 

Make sure broadcasts and multicasts (eg mDNS and SSDP) can pass between the WiFi and the wired network. (I am assuming they are all on the same subnet which is also a requirement).

controlav, that was it!  The Meraki AP has a Firewall & Traffic Shaping section which contained an Outbound rules policy to deny Any IPv4 to Any Local LAN Destination Port.  I changed DENY to ALLOW and - bam! - everything came up!   Thank you so much for the help!

Had a ‘could not find sonos product’ after I installed an Eero6+ mesh WiFi. My modem is an Arris NV6468MQ and I disabled the Arris Wifi so that radio signal didn’t conflict with the Eero. My Eero system works great, but I could not reconnect Sonos by the traditional method of ethernet to router. After an unsuccessful 1+hr call with Tech Support, I tried connecting the amp to a standalone Eero unit via ethernet and Viola!, it works perfectly. This ethernet connection has to be on one of the remote Eero pods to work (not the one hard wired to the modem). Even though my Eero system uses the same login and pw credentials to connect, it is a different network so this problem is solved!

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Hi @Nickytoes 

I suspect that the issue is due to the fact that disabling WiFi on your original router is not enough - did you either disable the DHCP server on the original router, or put the Eero system into Bridge/AP mode? You must do one or the other to avoid DHCP conflicts on the network.

https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/208276903-How-do-I-bridge-my-eeros-

I hope this helps.

Thank you. I initially installed the Eeros system without disabling the router and everything connected but Wifi didn’t seem to be any stronger. Then I configured the modem/router to bridge mode and that failed. I called the ISP and they stated they don’t support Bridge mode, so they made changes, but it appears DHCP is still enabled, but they disabled the 2.4 and 5ghz radios and now the signal via Eero works great. This is when I couldn’t re-connect to Sonos. By connecting my Sonos amp to one of the Eero nodes (not the one connected to router), this allowed the entire system to be visible upon opening my S1 app without any further adjustment. Thank you for clarifying the other options above and I’ll keep it for reference if I run into any problems. 

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No isp will support bridge mode as the router will not accept updates and they don’t like that they have no control 

I have a huawei cpe pro 2 from three and i also bought cpe pro 3 which I own

i have setup both as bridge mode and my eero pro 6 system controls dhcp etc

my arc is connected to the main eero via a switch and have no issues with any of my Sonos products 

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Hi @Nickytoes 

Please be aware, therefore, that your Sonos system will rely entirely on the quality of the wireless connection between the main Eero node and the secondary one that the Amp is wired to. Make sure it is located somewhere where the signal from the main node is sufficiently strong (some people locate them where the WiFi signal is weak, which is not what you want to do).

It certainly counter-intuitive, however - as @skullc states, wiring to the main node should be the answer (or just using WiFi, now that you have a mesh).

I hope this helps.

Hey, wanted to share a solution.

I was working fine for a while, but then my Arc would no longer show up in my Sonos app on my iPhone.  I was also experiencing some momentary audio dropouts (TBD if this is resolved, it was rare).

I’m running a Ubiquiti UDM router/AP.  I noticed when I was looking at the clients that the Arc was connecting on the 5Ghz network and not the 2.4GHz.  I was confused because I thought it only used the 2.4GHz channels, but reading forums found that it uses 5GHz channels for inter-Sonos communication.

I think band-steering on my Ubiquiti AP was trying its darndest to shift the Arc onto the 5GHz spectrum.  Once I turned it off, the Arc stayed on the 2.4GHz wifi and I no longer had any problems connecting to it from the app.

I had the same problem and my solution was toe enable wifi on my arc (which I disabled since it’s connected with lan). The rears connect directly to the arc with 5GHz which make sure a they are in sync. 
 

on my Google wifi the rears are now reported as connected with wire (bridging via arc)

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I want to share my experience as just another datapoint for something I changed that has now made it rock-solid in my home (so far anyways!). My Sonos system has always struggled with dropouts, disconnections, etc. I used to have Bridge and Boost to help over the years, then just the Boost for SonosNet. I still had issues, but less of them. And I use Roon … which was also just awful with Sonos.

I just recently replaced my old mesh system (SmartThings WiFi Mesh that got broken by Samsung and Plume recently) with a Deco XE75 Pro x3. I love love love the new/strong WiFi mesh network with this setup as it resolved a lot of various issues I had … however, for Sonos it got WORSE! I was so unhappy … I really thought this was going to help. BUT .. I didn’t give up. I thought “what if I go ALL WiFi with Sonos and get rid of the Boost and SonosNet?” So I did my research and saw this post amongst many on how you can setup Sonos with either a wired or wireless network, and how it can actually work great if everything is just wireless (i.e. get rid of SonosNet and/or the Boost!). So I did this … I removed the Boost and went all WiFi for Sonos with my new mesh system. And I cannot remember the last time it was this stable … and fast! Everything is speedy, and even Airplay now works well for me whereas in the past Airplay always gave me problems.

Needless to say, I just wanted to share this in case others may want to try this approach to see if it happens to resolve your issues. So far I am really happy with this ALL WIFI setup (fingers crossed that it continues). ☮️

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I had the same problem and my solution was toe enable wifi on my arc (which I disabled since it’s connected with lan). The rears connect directly to the arc with 5GHz which make sure a they are in sync. 
 

on my Google wifi the rears are now reported as connected with wire (bridging via arc)

Sadly the Sonos option “Disable WiFi” is not a correct indication of what it actually does when selected.

What it actually does is “Disable Radio” and that would be the radio used to connect to the Sub /Surround speakers as well as WiFi.

I’ve been trying for days now to connect my Play 1 to WiFi since switching ISP.

I go through the steps in the app to reconfigure network settings, press play/pause and volume up but just hangs when connecting to device and times out.

I’ve been trying for days now to connect my Play 1 to WiFi since switching ISP.

I go through the steps in the app to reconfigure network settings, press play/pause and volume up but just hangs when connecting to device and times out.

Sometimes rebooting the router, speaker and mobile device can fix the issue - the steps to follow are the ones mentioned here:

https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/connect-sonos-to-a-new-router-or-wi-fi-network
 

If the issues persist after rebooting all, then it maybe best to contact/chat with Sonos Support Staff via this LINK and see what the Staff can perhaps suggest to resolve the matter.

Thanks for the reply.  I’ve tried the reboots so may have to get in touch with support.

Really???

You expect us to be IT experts to use your products?

My ERA 100 was working perfectly.  Have had it a couple of years.  Went away for 3 weeks, returned and it wasn’t working anymore.  Not playing Spotify.

Did a complete factory reset.  Now the app won’t even find my ERA 100.  Says the speaker is found and set up complete, then give me a “something went wrong” message and the speaker isn’t there.  Tells me I have to add a speaker to the system.

This is complete BS.  I factory reset 4 times already, and each time the same effing message.

Support is non-existant.  On hold for 20 minutes already.  Plus the time spent trying to fix it myself.

Will NEVER buy another Sonos product.  Complete BS.

 

Really???

You expect us to be IT experts to use your products?

My ERA 100 was working perfectly.  Have had it a couple of years.  Went away for 3 weeks, returned and it wasn’t working anymore.  Not playing Spotify.

Did a complete factory reset.  Now the app won’t even find my ERA 100.  Says the speaker is found and set up complete, then give me a “something went wrong” message and the speaker isn’t there.  Tells me I have to add a speaker to the system.

This is complete BS.  I factory reset 4 times already, and each time the same effing message.

Support is non-existant.  On hold for 20 minutes already.  Plus the time spent trying to fix it myself.

Will NEVER buy another Sonos product.  Complete BS.

If the Era 100 is your one and only Sonos device and you factory reset it, you first need to setup the Sonos Houshold, under the same account credentials - if these things are confusing to you, then you’re perhaps best to contact Sonos Support. Here is the link to contact/chat to them…

https://support.sonos.com/s/contact

I have just bought a Sonos Amp.

I have the Ubiquiti UDM pro feeding multiple AP’s around the house.

I have an Arc which is connected via ethernet and also two Sonos 1s and a Sonos move working on Wifi. All working fine.

I then try an add the new Sonos Amp to the system. The Sonos app on my iphone finds the amp, I enter the security code, press the join button on the amp and it joins my system. Then it try’s to register on my Sonos account and thats when I hit a problem. It wont add it to my account, and therefore wont work.

I have tried wifi ethernet etc but no joy. I do have a starlink and discovered on the forums that this could be a problem so I took this out of the loop and used my old BT adsl line and it still doesnt work.

Ive looked at the settings in the UDM pro wifi and network settings but still no joy. Ive checked the ip addresses and there are no clashes. This post goes back two years, has anyone managed to connect an amp via Ubiquiti UDM pro??? The Arc was no problem using ethernet so cant work it out. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

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I have just bought a Sonos Amp.

I have the Ubiquiti UDM pro feeding multiple AP’s around the house.

I have an Arc which is connected via ethernet and also two Sonos 1s and a Sonos move working on Wifi. All working fine.

I then try an add the new Sonos Amp to the system. The Sonos app on my iphone finds the amp, I enter the security code, press the join button on the amp and it joins my system. Then it try’s to register on my Sonos account and thats when I hit a problem. It wont add it to my account, and therefore wont work.

I have tried wifi ethernet etc but no joy. I do have a starlink and discovered on the forums that this could be a problem so I took this out of the loop and used my old BT adsl line and it still doesnt work.

Ive looked at the settings in the UDM pro wifi and network settings but still no joy. Ive checked the ip addresses and there are no clashes. This post goes back two years, has anyone managed to connect an amp via Ubiquiti UDM pro??? The Arc was no problem using ethernet so cant work it out. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

Follow the Sonos recommendations on the Uni site. These things are complex and may not work out of the box with Sonos.

Update to my previous rant.

Got on the phone with Sonos support (after more than an hour on hold) and they got the speaker recognized by the Sonos app.  But their latest update does not support Spotify.  Supposedly they are working on a fix…

Customer Rep suggested I can listen to Sonos Radio - which does work.  It played one song and then it proceeded to it me with multiple commercials.  In the middle of the third commercial, I turned it all off.

Makes me wonder if this is an attempt by Sonos to sell their upgraded Sonos Radio with no commercials.  Like I said previously, complete BS.  It’s not as if Spotify is some small music service.  How can they provide an update without first testing that, at least, the major streaming services will work??

Update to my previous rant.

Got on the phone with Sonos support (after more than an hour on hold) and they got the speaker recognized by the Sonos app.  But their latest update does not support Spotify.  Supposedly they are working on a fix…

Customer Rep suggested I can listen to Sonos Radio - which does work.  It played one song and then it proceeded to it me with multiple commercials.  In the middle of the third commercial, I turned it all off.

Makes me wonder if this is an attempt by Sonos to sell their upgraded Sonos Radio with no commercials.  Like I said previously, complete BS.  It’s not as if Spotify is some small music service.  How can they provide an update without first testing that, at least, the major streaming services will work??

i mean it's beyond the common opinion of this rollout being rushed to get new consumers on board at the end of the major AV conventions across the world in this quarter. so i am with you in terms of frustration. 

 

I will say though. to complain about being on hold for an hour. knowing the chaos of literally anyone using a Sonos ecosystem is beyond me. if you thought you were getting a software engineer or architect on that line, you'd be blessed to get that. these customer service employees, are doing their best. likely hate their lives right now. not compensated to deal with Angry customers, and are inundated with requests emails chats and calls. 

so sure assume away the strategy or agenda of whatever. but don't come here whining about being on hold for an hour. as if that's unique. 

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